long enough before the election date that we will see where this goes. >> i think we have all learned that no one should perhaps be in the business of predicting at this point. i do want to point out there was a question we were talking about earlier today. the president is going to be calling three service members this morning, it is thanksgiving. traditionally we would see a member of the administration visiting troops. it doesn't mean it couldn't happen. >> it could happen. >> we haven't heard anything about that. is that strange? >> you are correct that it could still happen and sometimes with this administration things do get put on the calendar later, but it does add to sort of the sense that this administration has had of not adhering to traditions that we have seen going back a long ways. we also know that this president has his own tradition which is on the holiday or a weekend he depose to one of his properties and that's where he is. so that is clearly the tradition he is keeping up with. >> he tends to get up early, he tends to watch this show and tweet about it. so let's see if one of you guys sparked his concern about