prosecuted under the low gan ac. this is 200 year old law. very obscure. every time the foreign policy comes up they talk about. this is bread and butter. look at what they charged so far, lying to the fbi. violating the lobbying rules in the montapaul manafort case. they are not going to be prosecuting in the logan act. >> that's why i'm asking the question. >> i get it. >> i hear you. >> but i know a lot of people talk about the logan act and count me as a skeptic. but i've been wrong. it's happened once, that's true. >> once. mr. ambassador, back to you on this. we talked about this initially when we found out about a week ago the flynn legal team wasn't going to communicate anymore with the white house. that was our first sort of thought, okay, maybe there is a