process, not impeachment. impeachment has much wider latitude. it's not limited to what we normally think of as felonies, criminal offenses, high crimes and misdemeanors is ultimately subject to political judgment to a great degree, as congressman schiff referenced earlier. but i do think it would be very hard in the ordinary criminal justice system to find a president obstructing justice within the federal system. but, again, i agree with jeff, this is completely unresolved as a matter of existing case law in the united states. so we're in a no man's land from a legal perspective. but, again, people as you know significant on the left as allen dershowitz have said similar things to what doud said in the president's right-hand man in terms of these sorts of things.