found. we don't know yet if something -- if this went off, if there were injuries, if this went off when it was trying to be diffused. we do know what you see. there's a heavy police presence there. the head of the mta is on the scene. people are being urged to stay away from the area. as soon as we get information that we can verify, you will get it. >> we don't know of any injuries, none that have been reported at least publicly. so at this moment, there's not a lot that we know except that 42nd and 8th is at a standstill because of all of those emergency vehicles there. if there were to have been an explosion at port authority, that would be very scary, it would be huge for a monday morning commute. but all we know that there is a device that is suspicious of some kind. >> now, so how do you explain the inconsistency between, if it's not that big a deal, why is there so much stoppage? because they have a sweep area. what happens is, as soon as they find a device. this is all going on below ground, right? so even though they're aboveground, that's where they have to park their vehicles is.