which he was not able to do on anything else. >> be a second straight deficit swallow for conservatives and his party. >> yes, that's right. >> it would be dismissed as makework by people but look, there's no question that it's needed. that's a good start to this. let me ask you something. let's play with it a little bit. do you think the president gets in any way exonerated, pardoned by letter, by implication? do you think in the beginning of 2018 that happens for the president? it was speculated on in december. do you think it happens in. >> it's clearly at the top of your wish list for 2018, but look. i preface it by saying if you live by the crystal ball, you usually end up eating glass. i don't want to get too per descriptive. if the trump team believeser this getting a letter exonerati exoneration, that's not how this works. you keep believing there's light