that down and replacing it with fence because a fence is far more effective. so the wall isn't really a wall, it's mostly a fence and it doesn't stretch for 2,000 miles. that's good for people who aren't familiar with our southern border to know. and it will make it i think easier to envision what it really is, a wall system that involves some barriers or infrastructure, personnel and technology. >> might be easier to get democratic voters for something like that as well. >> it will. >> i want to ask you in arizona, sheriff joe arpaio, whom the president pardoned last year, he's running to replace you -- >> right. >> as the senator for arizona. he said, quote, one unwavering reason to do this, in his view, to support the agenda and policies of president trump. will he get your support and could he win? >> well, think you better write about it and talk about it fast because it won't last long.