three work streams. one is this financial crime thing, that has nothing to do with collusion per say. that's money laundering and other illegal activities, ala manafort. then there's obstruction. that has nothing to do with collusion either. did you intend to obstruct the investigation. then third is this conspiracy charge where he may have some latitude about what the parameters of it is, but he can't avoid it. >> interesting. >> just to point out from an investigation perspective, they have to make sure every stone is uncovered before they wrap up the investigation interviewing him doesn't necessarily mean they think he's guilty. they have to uncover it as a legal matter. >> it makes sense, because it's his campaign that's under investigation. it didn't seem out of the question or out of the ordinary. i wasn't surprised when they said they wanted to interview the president. of course they do. >> of course. he's the one that's overseeing