because this president has a long history of making racist, bigoted comments about people even before he decided to run for president and even when he was a business owner in new york city. so this is dividing our country. this is on the heels of him doing something great for dr. martin luther king jr., but to make that comment in the white house and to be as nonpresidential as he was, it's just deplorable and i think he should apologize not only to the people who he was talking about but also for the american people at a time when we're trying to make sure that we unite this country and have a good working relationship with our world allies. >> amy, let me bring you into the conversation. the problem i have with what the president said is not the word, the vulgarity, but the question. it was a question, why do we want these people here. at least the way it was intimated in the remarks we heard afterwards is he was essentially saying we don't. how do you reflect on all of this?