save these species and we're running out of time. so we tried to look at creative solutions and make people from both sides kind of think it over. >> what is is the one thing that maybe surprised you the most? >> i think it was my own reaction to a lot of things. there was an incident where we were witness iing the number of hunts. it was quite challenging. it pulls at your heart strings. after the hunt, all of the villagers come and harvest the meat and take away the elephant. it was really shocking to understand that my relationship to these animals is very different than their relationship to these animals. if we continue to look at conservation from only the western set of eyes, it's going to be very hard if we can't empathize with what's happening on the ground in the local areas. >> people have a lot of preconceived notions when they think about hunting. especially when it comes to big game hunts. i have covered stories about the illegal ivory trade and how there's been a movement to