somebody says what's your name, where are you from, that is innocuous and totally harmless. when somebody says, but where are you really from? i think that is a micro-aggression, that that is veiled interest, that if you call them out on it the interest is, i'm just curious where you're actually from, but what they're veiling is what they -- the predetermined answer that they have. this view of a default american looks a certain way, and it doesn't compute if you say that you, as this career analyst said, "i'm from new york, i'm from manhattan, just like you." it doesn't compute for some people, so they want to say, okay, well, where are you really from? and so that is a form, like i said, of this famed interest in you. >> you're talking about basically what -- describing the situation you say president trump interrupted an intel briefing to ask a korean intelligence officer, where are you from?