that he was -- that he was open to people wisperring in his ear on his own staff. general kelly plays a big role. and if people keep thinking of general kelly as, oh, he's the adult who came in to calm the white house. and he's there to make sure his mood is stable and people don't rush into the oval office, no. general kelly is a big part of this kind of deportation effort. and he has been since he was part of department of homeland security. and it was him who called back to the white house on capitol hill and said we have to make sure this doesn't happen. it was him that kind of made sure that the hard liners were in that room. that all feeds a sense of feeling that we don't know what the president believes, but we know that he's open to being