what's the hold up or does this person need help because they should have a clearance. rob porter did not deserve a clearance. we know that know. we don't know about the rest of the 30 to 40. >> i want to read the fbi statement responding to the white house. this is a couple of days ago. it says after the fbi has completed a background information, it provides the information to the agency authority, in this case the white house, who determines whether to grant or defny the security clearance. the process doesn't work that it's all on us. we do the background check and you make the decision on the clearance. how can the white house claim otherwise? >> sure. i'll tell you this. first of all, as a disclaimer, i've never been through this process so i don't flow it first hand. the fbi and the white house, for that matter, no one has been through this process in the way we're going through it now. we have the first citizen president of the united states. somebody who came outside of government. he was neither a politician nor