threshold in order to prove this has happened. this really goes to the heart of what the special counsel's investigation is about. meddling in the u.s. election by really a front for russia intel and it really speaks against what we've heard from the president himself, as he's thrown doubts on whether or not this say real thing. it is a real thing. this is a big deal. this is proof that this is not a hoax. i want to bring in our shimon prokupecz who is working his sources. what have you learned, shimon? >> i'm just reading through this indictment. we have producers and other folks going through this. it's quite stunning. there's so much detail in this indictment. it really is stunning. some of the allegations here says that some of the people that are named in this indictment travel to the united states and when they travel, according to the indictment, they planned their itineraries, purchased equipment such as camera, sim cards and drop