never happen but the idea it took place before he worked for the campaign is false. >> i'm curious. you've read the ten-page democratic memo and there are redactions, presumably some of them -- maybe all of them legitimate to prevent the disclosure of sources and methods, what was your reaction when you went through them? >> i didn't think it undercut the core of the memo. the redactions are are difficult to get through, they break up the memo but if you look at the substance of what the democrats are saying, the redactions don't undercut what they're trying to persuade the american. i would say one thing having been involved in exercises like this, people who redact stuff don't pay a penalty for redactions. you're better safe than sorry. i guarantee you some of that stuff that's blacked out isn't entirely secret it's just somebody said it makes me nervous, i'm taking it. there's no penalty for taking stuff out. >> adam schiff had to sign off on it and he did. >> the key thing in the memo overall is the idea the steele dossier was the whole thing used to justify the investigation.