it's an individual right, you can have gun restrictions and strong gun laws. we have rights in this country and we also have responsibilities. >> so two points, one historical, one practical. the historical one, is it true in its earliest interpretations, that the second amendment wasn't about individuals telling the state we'll have guns when ever we want. it was the opposite. it was the state largely because of washington's influence where he couldn't get enough well-armed, well-trained people to get an arm which is what he wanted, not these individual militias, saying to the individuals you must have a musket, you must know how to use it, you must have it for your own and bring it when we call you. >> it's such a world that's so different from what we know now. it was a universal draft, basically. george washington wanted the strong constitution. a lot of people who were opposed to the constitution were worried that the government, the big central government, would be too strong. they wanted to protect the state-run local armies basically. now, they had an individual