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this is consistent with his populist, you know, vibe. but, you know, again, i guess if you're his top economic advisor and you think this is a disaster and he doesn't take your advice, maybe you should hit the brakes. >> we're talking about so many people who are leaving. i have to ask you, ryan, do you see when we're talking about hope hicks last night leaving her job, and it seems like it can't be said enough. her departure means we could be in for even a bumpier ride. >> yeah, look, i think that -- i mean, on the one hand, you know, i used to say this a lot during the campaign when he had a lot of staff turmoil. at the end of the day, the problem with the trump universe is donald trump. the issues always go back to him and his management style, and that's the reason for the turmoil in all of the enterprises that he's run. so, you know, we can exaggerate the importance of any single staffer, but, you know, her reputation, most reporting shows that she was very important in occasionally preventing, you know, bad things from happening, and sanding down some of his

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