sarah sanders not to just say, yeah, we agree russia is the likely -- >> i don't know. i think when we think about who does the poisoning in this world, we pretty much know who does it. but at the same time, i think she's being cautious there and doesn't want to speak about the investigation while the investigation is still going on. >> right, but -- >> i know we all like how cautious the trump white house is. >> i know. that's what i was going to say. >> and this time she got it right. but the fact is in the end, we're going to find out that it's russia. i have no doubts. i don't have the responsibility of providing proof for it, but i know exactly what went on. we all know what went on. >> can i just say, michael, that's exactly an example of why the russians wanted donald trump to win, because they are pussyfooting around the truth. they can't even stand with their allies -- >> what about the russians that were killed in syria by american fighter jets. >> it's ridiculous to think that -- and the american people actually believe that that's the case and it's ridiculous to think that, you know, donald trump is not in office today