so it doesn't matter what -- >> was it smart to reach out to a trump organization attorney if you're saying it has nothing to do with trump organization, there are plenty of lawyers in l.a. >> you know what, so what, though. so they reached out to jill martin because they needed a local attorney. so they reached out to jill martin. you know, it's a -- also the e-mails, anderson, michael cohen used that e-mail address for every single thing he did. now, a lot of people do that. a lot of people don't realize. on hindsight, you know, should you separate it, it is a better way to go? absolutely. to use the same e-mail, it's not evidence of anything. >> okay. david schwartz, i appreciate you being on. jeff toobin as well. we'll hear from -- >> thank you. >> -- michael avenatti, stormy daniels' attorney in the next hour. more breaking news ahead, robert mueller subpoenaed the trump organization. the question is, has the special counsel crossed the president's red line? more ahead. feel the clarity of non-drowsy claritin