the nancy pelosi bogeyman strategy was one of the top strategies that republicans had laid out. they had sort of counted on this notion that they can go back to their districts and say, vote for me or vote for a republican, or you're going to have a potential speaker nancy pelosi again. and nobody wants that, is what they're going to say. but conor lamb showed that he's not afraid to basically throe pelosi under the bus. i would expect a lot of democratic challengers to start doing that. that really undercuts a top strategy for republicans. >> that dynamic pulled together quite well. our friend, two great political reporters. they talked to a number of democrats who have gone on the record, which is rare. after this election, more democrats now wait to go on the record, saying, run from nancy. maybe she won't be the leader. but that's an internal democratic dynamic. the yes is, you know, is it enough? republicans can celebrate that, but they just lost. >> right, she used to be sort of the big shiny object. donald trump is a much bigger energizing factor for democrats and independents probably than she is. but if it was just pennsylvania 18, this would all be overplobl.