issue that might affect your ability to serve and defend our nation, you're disqualified. it sounds like the president has identified this as a potential hindrance to serving in a role to defend our nation. a hindrance to deployability. i think he has that prerogative as commander in chief. >> that was part of the justification we heard from the secretary of defense. what do you think? >> as somebody from, a former military man, have you ever seen a detriment in any way to a transgender serving? >> i've never served with a transgender troop in the u.s. special forces, so i don't have a personal experience with it. again, i would defer to the prerogative of the president to make the decision as commander in chief. >> scott? >> well, they certainly have to -- the white house certainly has to link it to a health and safety issue. we've got a federal court decision that has struck down this ban and said that it's discriminatory in nature. look for there to be followup decisions. what the state has to do is having a compelling state