ordinary criminal cases like tax evasion or money laundering. in that case, the independent counsel could file an indictment naming multiple defendants. a president might say, oh, you have to strike me from the indictment, because i'm a sitting president who can't be indicted. at that point, the special counsel or the judge would say, will you -- will you agree that you will not argue, after you leave office, that the time for bringing charges is expired? and only if the president agrees to that would you withdraw an indictment. >> yeah. so, before he resigned, the president's lawyer, john dowd, argued that the president cannot obstruct justice, because under the constitution, he is the chief law enforcement officer. does that argument hold water, do you think, mr. dellinger? >> i'm holding water now, and the answer is no. the answer is absolutely no. that is the lamest argument that