but 19 attorneys general said they will fight the president if he dares to ask people if they are citizens. the president wants to know if you're on his side. many people are viewing this as an attempt to suppress the counting of minorities and immigrants. will it have that effect? >> i think here we go again. i think it could have that effect, because there's a great deal of concern from individuals about the government and about immigration rights and immigrant status. and so, i think, individuals may simply say, i'm not going to participate in this. i don't want to open my door to people who may come to the door and i don't know who they are. so i think there will be some concern. and it's alarming. >> yep. michael, vanita, thank you very much, i appreciate the conversation. when we come back, could the question on the census actually be political playback. why some blue states are crying foul and what they could stand to lose. lawns has arrived.