>> you wouldn't do that for someone you really liked? >> not really. i'm not sure you're supposed to do that as a lawyer. now you have an invested interest in the underlying litigation. and our ethical rules, as i understand it, prohibit us from doing that. even if i love my client, i don't think that's the appropriate thing to do. so here they say i just gave $130,000 to president-elect my good friend donald trump. it just doesn't ring true. >> especially when it comes to borrowing against your home to have this money to pay this person. let me move on. we also really wanted to talk to you. joseph, let's relive the '90s for a second. >> okay. >> because your case -- do you like that? your case by paula jones has recently been cited here. based on what you know about this case, do you think the precedent applies, not having