$3.5 billion that he borrowed and then collapsed. and he has done as president, he has in -- just like we weren't prepared for him as the media, i don't think the media was prepared for him as a politician. we weren't prepared as a businessman. no one is prepared for the level at his decision. i used to be proud, chris, i was the guy who kept him in check. he said he was worth $500 million. he was only worth $100 million. he moved the guideposts. he knows how to change the question. not whether he should be on the forbes 400 but where he should go and stopping him from his claims that he is at the very top, worth more than any other real estate tycoon in new york city. >> jonathan, you know me. you know ordinarily i may be hammering someone in your position. i can't. you know why? too00 critical. i was