saying from the podium at the white house the president has done nothing wrong and of course there is nothing to be worried about -- >> no collusion. >> that is the official line. >> and on top of this, joey jackson, the president tweeted that he might pardon the great boxing champion jack johnson. but is that a message that he's talking about pardons and he did a full pardon for scooter libby and is that a message to michael cohen? >> you know, it is interesting, wolf, because it really makes you wonder whether it is. and here is my concern. listen, on the merits of the pardon, i don't question. first african-american boxer and conviction predicated on his association of having a white girlfriend. nonsense. and then i think the merits are strong. and we should note that -- look, members from both sides of the aisle have spoken about this pardon. you have certainly cory booker has been on board with this, you have john mccain on board with this. and so i think it has merit. now in terms of why he's doing