different stories, whether it is an accuser of bill cosby, of harvey weinstein, this is a -- this is a remarkable day in terms of that conversation? >> yeah, this is huge. i don't think we can underestimate erica, how significant this is for women. i've been a civil rights lawyer for two decades. i've watched what has happened in this country around sexual assault how this movement has evolved and to see someone like bill cosby convicted is monumental. we have to remember that the prosecutors in this case, the original district attorney refused to file charges and there was a lot of back and forth between the prosecutors about whether there was substantial evidence, whether constand was a credible witness and we saw cosby's new defense lawyer, his new defense team go after andrea constand and the five other women really hard, really challenge their credibility, and despite that, the jurors still found that