about animous, this is not abou keeping people out, this is about doing what's right. i do believe there has been a hard line on tariffs, and the hard line on tariffs is going to make the farmers start to react on that. >> they were furious when it was put in. is the president willing to pick that fight with his base. even though he says give me my wall money, is he willing to be pro-business? >> the republican leaders in congress absolutely do not want a big shut-down fight over immigration weeks before the election. will the president relent and how will his base react? >> there is a little bit of this for the farmers. this also allows him to talk about the economy. the economy is doing so well that we need more workers.