that's the reason why as mike was just saying, it's so easy and so difficult -- so difficult for any lawyer to see these questions and think, okay, this is a good idea for you to go in and do this interview. look, i think when we reported on the story about a month ago about the four main groups of topics, with we knew there were 50 questions the team had come up with based on their conversations with the mueller team, the conversations as we were talking to people really made it clear there was a lot of agitation inside the white house. the legal team, i think looked at what mueller was laying out and they thought, boy, we can't do this. so, this really chrisalizes why there was a lot of agitation. it was after john dowel left the legal team. don, this explains a lot of what we were seeing and sensing behind the scenes of a lot of agitation about where this