listen to this. >> i wouldn't have signed this agreement to begin with. i said that before. i think it was a weak agreement, particularly on verification. it allows iran to break out after specific period of time. i probably would have stayed in for alliance management reasons more than anything else. but i don't think that it is the end of the world if the administration leaves the agreement. >> she doesn't think it is the end of the world if the administration leaves. are the fears overblown? >> the end of the world? no. it is not the end of the world. you're dealing with a broken angry dysfunctional middle east, you see the situation in syria. you've got arab regimes melting down in yemen, in libya, iraq is more stable, but highly questionable whether it is a functioning state. no, it is not the end of the world. it just leaves -- it is going to leave the united states more isolated. it is going to afford the russians and the chinese more advantage.