questions, and he had a right to give that to the president in a lawyer/client privilege way. if someone in the white house leaked that, they may have breached the privilege, too, but we know this white house leaks, like we said, we know this white house leaks like a sieve. >> that brings the other question, would they prevail in a court, which alan dershowitz brought up earlier, which is waiver. the president may have waived that small area of law that protects him, his deliberative process, privilege stuff, he may well have wavived that. so he sits there pretty legally naked when it comes to trying to resist this subpoena if one is issued. >> i think that overstates it. >> the president does have the authority to speak to the public. i think the courts would find waiver only in extreme cases. so i don't think he's completely naked. i think he's partly exposed. i don't want to use the metaphor of putin. he probably has his shirt off but still has his pants on. >> let's not go down that metaphor anymore.