that's what we saw there. we've seen this from him before particularly talking about ms-13 which is a problem in many cities across the country including in the dmv area. this is not surprising. i think a lot of people heard it and wasn't demonizing all illegal immigrants in terms of talking about ms 13. >> when he announced his presidency, he was talking and rapists, good people, too. >> that's the problem b where this administration. he is talking about gang member, repeat felon, but because he's forfeited the moral credibility because of so many statements he's made, people are left to think, oh, is h he just talking about immigrants, just ginni iu his base? >> getting back to what rudy giuliani told dana bash that sitting president of the united states can't be indicted. gloria is getting more information from a source