sunderland to decide that. it's wealthier for a start. it's way more cosmopolitan. we complain about it all the time. people are struggling, people are doing well. they really shine a lot on how divided the country is. >> people don't just look at it. >> citizens who have lived here for 10, 15 years for the first time ever have been the victims of racial abuse. >> british drinking patterns seem to be driven by the fact that pubs close at, what, midnight. >> yeah. >> i noticed as we approached last call, people start doubling up. drinking starts to accelerate with a mad panic. you think if you extend the drinking hours it would improve behavior or make it worse? let's face it, your country may have a bad reputation as far as drinking, sensible drinking. do you think that's a function of -- >> whatever.