state spied on his campaign. he says it over and over. and it's just not true. it's a lie. facts matter. and what the president is doing runs the risk of tearing america part. this is bishop michael curry whose sermon at the royal wedding captured the hearts and minds of people all over the world. he is leading a protest tomorrow night at the white house. >> have we turned against each other, do you think? >> we are running that risk. we are running -- i'm reading the soul of america. i'm reading jon meacham's book now. we ron that risk. and we must not turn against each other. shirley chisholm said it a long time ago about this country, said you know, we all came over here on different ships but we're all in the same boat now. >> more from bishop curry, and just a little bit later on in the show. now i want to bring in peter wayner. former adviser to george w. bush, and kevin kosar, a