maker when it came to real estate in atlantic city and new york city so he might be a good negotiator, do you think there is any relevance. >> that is one of the strongest brand assets he brought to the campaign and the presidency, that a lot of people believe that because he's good at negotiating over golf courses, he'll be good at negotiating over other things. and when it comes to something like north korea, which is a very complicated problem, the very smart people have been trying for a very long time to solve, the fact that you've had the smartest guys in the room for decades but unable to solve the north korean problem, you could kind of understand why supporters of the president might say, yeah, this sounds crazy, but kim jong-un is crazy, maybe it takes crazy to deal with crazy. >> but the problem is when you default on a bank loan or you don't get that real estate deal and you walk away, that building doesn't have nuclear weapons. there is not -- there aren't the kind of giant -- and also he's boxing out allies. that is another problem.