fact that it wasn't just about the conflict that jaime comey had and overseeing the hillary clinton e fail investigation but he officially talked about russia as well. we'll see how sort of inflaming those and how bad those are for the president ultimately when we see what robert mueller has. i think in the short-term, we also have to remember that andrew mccabe is somebody who had a conflict with rod rosenstein, who didn't always see eye to eye with a lot of people inside the fbi, and obviously we also know that he is the subject of his own inspector general report that didn't do so well. so, there are a lot of conflicting characters and story lines that robert mueller understands he has to sift through. >> talk about -- let's unpack this more, jack. andrew mccabe recounts a conversation. here's what he told "new york