that you accuse him of, that he fired james comey to protect himself, that doesn't matter because he has the power to do it. that, i think, is the real core of the issue here. does the president have the right to obstruct justice because he's the head of the executive branch that runs the justice system, at least at the federal level. >> just to stick with you one more second because it's a legal question. it sounds like in this 20-page letter sent to mueller in january from the trump legal team that the giuliani argument is the president cannot obstruct justice because he has the power to terminate the investigation all together f you have the power to termat the investigation, whatever the investigation finds, you can -- if you could have terminated it -- follow the circular logic -- then you can't