>> the president would know if he did. >> exactly. certainly the people who were aboard air force one when he reportedly did it, the president's son, don junior would know. i don't understand this about, oh this is the information we had at the time, it was a mistake. it is a flat out lie. >> it's a flat out lie, they were trying to defend themselves. so, you know what, rudy is kind of telling the truth here, they soldiered some blarney, now that they're forced to tell the truth. the president my believe he's not above law, the way he's spinning it is, i'm within the law to say he's above the law. >> hold that thought i got to get to the break. we're going to come back. stick around. when we come back, bill clinton speaking out tonight addressing his own tone deaf