that's what made him so good and he also knew he was lucky to have life that he did and he never underestimated that, never stopped being grateful for it. >> well, michael, thank you so much for sharing with me. mark, thank you. it is great to see you. thank you so much. appreciate it. and we do want to make sure we emphasize today that honestly, there is help out there. if you or anyone you know is struggling, needs help, the national suicide prevention lifeline is there. take note. take a look. and keep your eye out for your friends and your loved ones and those out there. it is there 24 hours a day, free of charge, 1-800-273-8255. i of course had the pleasure of not only watching anthony's show on cnn, but also having anthony on the show and i was always honored to have him here. he showed us how to live a life of exploration, wonder and adventure through food. he was here a few weeks ago and i want fod share just a short clip of that conversation. >> i was watching this episode,