they are still picking and choo choosing their battles. >> when you see this level of tension the united states has with france, uk, canada, our closest ally, the number one trading partner that the united states has other european allies. you wonder what is going on. from your perspective, what do you see? >> i think it's important to note these aren't just trade relationships. these are security relationships. these are close allies with whom we have really critical intelligence cooperation and partnership. as we see the erosion of this relationship and the erosion of this relationship over time, we are paying costs in terms of american security. we're ta paising costs in ways that aren't necessarily vidsable to the public. what's unclear is whether president trump doesn't appreciate that himself or if he just doesn't care. >> let me ask phil. you have these tensions over trade and other issue, russia