clinton administration. they agreed to denuclearize. it was 2002 that we found out, six years later, that they were cheating. it feels to me like that's a real danger. when you helped negotiate the iran deal, aren't those kinds of checks, cameras, inspections, that's the heart of the process? >> fareed, that's exactly right. the president to some extent has already hoisted on his own hyperbo hyperbole. he tore down the iran deal, every conceivable adjective. now can he meet the same standard with north korea. can he get them up front as iran did to dismantle virtually the entirety of its program. can he get the most intrusive verification and monitoring system in north korea as we did with iran? look, we should all want the president to succeed. it's great that he's pursuing diplomacy. sumi is right, he has such a