jeff merkley, who's been speaking out. he's been down to the border and seen the detention facility first hand. senator, you saw obviously what was happening in one detention center and now this audio is getting a lot of attention tonight. the homeland security secretary was asked about it today, it was played in the background of the entire briefing. does what we just heard reflect what you witnessed and saw? >> well, what i saw at the processing center were children who had been assembled into a 30 by 30 chain link fence space who had been, many of whom had been separated from their parents within the previous hours or previous day. they weren't sobbing while i was there. i did ask about these painful separations. they said it happens, some, yes, there. a lot of separations occur before people get there. i mean, the kids don't know what's going on. they don't know where they're headed. they don't know how long they're going to be separated.