and the movement right now that feels that any of these four candidates would be a huge improvement. they range from good to great. and we're going to be lucky if we get any of them. and i think the conservative movement will rally behind any of the four nominees that have been put forth. >> okay. jonathan, all the reporting from the weekend is that senate majority leader mitch mcconnell has made the case to the president that judge kethledge and judge hardiman, the two we haven't talked about yet, are the most confirmable in his view. that they face the least obstacles. and to mcconnell, it seems to all be about their paper trail. do you think that's the case? >> i think any of the four would eventually be confirmed. i think the concern that mcconnell raised is that someone like judge calkavanaugh has wrin close to 300 opinions. over a hundred of them involved complex administrative law questions. that's a lot of material to go through. judge barrett has written some very dense, thoughtful law review articles that will also