after that, the way the simple calendar would work, president trump said the putin ones, that's going to be the easiest of all of them. knowing that he has this indictment he's going to have to deal with with putin, he thinks it's going to be easy. why? >> i think the indictments kind of make it pretty cut and dried, don't they? i mean even those indictments against a military action is kind of a feckless move, i mean this is a military attack on america's election system. we should -- let's hack them back with our military. we should be much tougher on them than simply indicting them for crimes they'll never pay for. if this is true -- and like roger, i'd love to see the dnc server. i've always believed this was russia. i think the president should get right in vladimir putin's face and say, hey -- >> go ahead. finish your point, please. >> i think he should say, hey, you run a police state. you're in charge here. this is our elections. cut it out. >> well, cut it out. don't say that. that's what obama told him. he's going to have to do better than that, right?