conference or immediately thereafter issue a very clear public record of what was discussed and areas for future cooperation. that's how it is supposed to work. so there's not public distance and not flag catplaying catch ut the russians say. >> you told don lemon after the helsinki meeting there's a taint of treason around the white house. do you mean that from the legal perspective or otherwise? >> no, a point of public perception. we are using words like impeachment, treason, obstruction of justice, those are words being used that there's something off about the way donald trump is behaving. there's something that doesn't feel right, doesn't smell right, why, after russia has done a cyber attack on our country are we allowing russia to take this kind of lead on the helsinki summit. why wasn't there other people in the room when donald trump is known to be a gut player, misspeaks almost daily.