consults with past directors. >> of course. >> what was it like meeting with a foreign intelligence chief, meeting with predecessors, director of the dia or nsa, they all like to speak with predecessors. potentially, how much of an impact could this have on national security? >> well, let's keep in mind that the trump administration is already pretty thin in the talent pool. there are a lot of positions they haven't filled. there's a lot of talent that frankly doesn't want to work for trump. so to actually now lose this kadri of former officials and often called in to consult with current officials in the trump administration i think is just a huge loss for america. and just a very unwise and foolish move by very petty and petulent president. >> doesn't appear that the white house did the homework before making the announcement.