think because of the relationship that he and david pecker have, that transaction would not have happened. there is enough give and take and win win for them that they win collaboratively. >> you don't think he needed to be paid by trump? >> what is in it for him, he is now one of the most important media people in this country, in the world, traactually. so now they're working to advance trump's agenda. that is what is in it for him. he has access that no other media property has, he sells out, he gets more eyeballs to his website. >> how did it start? >> it started in the 80s in new york city, they were gods, and
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