oh, sure, 150k? for most of us that would be hard to fathom. we would spend a lot of time figuring out whether we wanted to pay, why we wanted to pay, what that might be worth. it would be a different kind of conversation. for these two men, it seemed to b business as usual, the same way you and i would talk about getting coffee in the morning. >> go ahead, david. >> you brought up something earlier, allison, that i was just thinking about. we've seen this movie before, inspector of the national eninquiree enquirer and covering things up. he was lying about affairs and people do that. it's important to note politically a lot of people will take all of this in and say -- and compartmentalize it. >> we just heard senator mike rounds say that. mike rounds said, i can't really be focused on that because i have bigger fish to fry.