good sense. even if they weren't i know it's naive or dumb to expect at this point for the white house to come out and say a year ago we were wrong. that's just a fact. >> well, i think it's long been observed. this white house doesn't apologize. i get it. it is what it is on that front. >> he declared it a big day for free and fair trade and they work on trade. is it a very big trade?