be willing to go along with that kind of let's say advice, you know, don't believe what you see with your own eyes. >> some people want to believe what they want to believe. and in this day and age all the different information avenues out there people find what they want to find often times. and this is a white house that really wants to control the message, control the narrative, david. in fact new white house communications chief bill shine tried to defend banning cnn kaitlan collins from an open press event saying it wasn't technically a ban. listen. >> this was the most laughable. >> listen. >> did you ask her if we are use the word ban? because i've seen it on lower thirds. >> did what word with you use bill. >> when you ask her if we ever used the word ban i will answer that question. >> you prohibited her. what's the word. >> you ask her focus now. you ask her if we ever used the word ban. see you guys later. >> okay.