this is a desperate need. they could target our infrastructure, and you saw how iran was threatening us by using this asymmetrical threat in warfare. so we've got to deal with so many issues here, and we need the president. >> and he's got a block on this one because he thinks it's bad for him on some level. so even when all of his chiefs are out there, he takes it in a different direction. but this isn't the only issue where we're dealing with this contagion. we see it in the crisis on the border also. everybody knows it's wrong. everybody knows the system doesn't work. everybody knows that we need rules and recommendations and policies, but it's not happening. why and what's the remedy? >> politics. people are worried about primaries, about offending, quote, the base. and if you spend your time, you know, in these elected jobs trying to satisfy your base, chris, let me tell you. you know, you know a lot about politics. you had a father, you got a brother. i mean these are people that have given their lives to politics.